You wanting to say something when I poke at Arthur? I would never have thought it! :p
You know, I would have not minded some [more] L/Guin in the movie if they had done a better job with her character. As we've discussed (several times, probably), I just can't stand her in the movie--I think her character was written and acted extremely poorly. Thinking about it, it's rather a shame that there is such a dearth of good portrayals of Guin over all, despite the modern attempts to tell the story from her perspective. I read a bunch of those versions when I was younger, and they all sort of run together, but I don't remember ever being really impressed by any of them. She could be a truly awesome character in some version of the legend--if someone could write her that way. I have had moments of wondering why I dislike her so much and if it's a buying into some kind of misogynist view (Malory, for example, really does a number on her)—but no, it’s not that. I just can’t stand her as she is in the movie. She’s so damn annoying.
Well, anyway, I’d been a slasher long before this movie was even a twinkle in someone’s eye and even A/L had crossed my mind long, long ago, so it was completely obvious to me from the start. Besides, their relationship is the most interesting in the movie.
As to the concept of OTP? Yes. I would never pair Arthur with anyone else anymore. I would Lancelot, but it would a fuck for fun, and he'd always come back to Arthur later. Arthur might marry someone for political gain (not for himself of course :p) but imho he'll never love anyone else.
To me, that fulfills the definition of being a OTP person—but not a fanatical one. I think I could (actually, I know I could) pair L with someone else in more than just a casual fling kind of way. Although, of course, I do like them together best—it’s so interesting.
And you, identify with Arthur? No way.
MZB—well, she’s considered somewhat seminal, but I don’t really care for her later work, Mists included. It’s a bloated, self-indulgent mess in my opinion. She really, really needed an editor to cut it down to about half of its size. But it is rather interesting if you've never picked it up. L is bisexual, and there’s some actual A/L in it—which you’d think would be enough to sell me--but I’ve developed an aversion in it. I think I’d had a surfeit of the whole neo-pagan, feminist revision thing.
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You know, I would have not minded some [more] L/Guin in the movie if they had done a better job with her character. As we've discussed (several times, probably), I just can't stand her in the movie--I think her character was written and acted extremely poorly. Thinking about it, it's rather a shame that there is such a dearth of good portrayals of Guin over all, despite the modern attempts to tell the story from her perspective. I read a bunch of those versions when I was younger, and they all sort of run together, but I don't remember ever being really impressed by any of them. She could be a truly awesome character in some version of the legend--if someone could write her that way. I have had moments of wondering why I dislike her so much and if it's a buying into some kind of misogynist view (Malory, for example, really does a number on her)—but no, it’s not that. I just can’t stand her as she is in the movie. She’s so damn annoying.
Well, anyway, I’d been a slasher long before this movie was even a twinkle in someone’s eye and even A/L had crossed my mind long, long ago, so it was completely obvious to me from the start. Besides, their relationship is the most interesting in the movie.
As to the concept of OTP? Yes. I would never pair Arthur with anyone else anymore. I would Lancelot, but it would a fuck for fun, and he'd always come back to Arthur later. Arthur might marry someone for political gain (not for himself of course :p) but imho he'll never love anyone else.
To me, that fulfills the definition of being a OTP person—but not a fanatical one. I think I could (actually, I know I could) pair L with someone else in more than just a casual fling kind of way. Although, of course, I do like them together best—it’s so interesting.
And you, identify with Arthur? No way.
MZB—well, she’s considered somewhat seminal, but I don’t really care for her later work, Mists included. It’s a bloated, self-indulgent mess in my opinion. She really, really needed an editor to cut it down to about half of its size. But it is rather interesting if you've never picked it up. L is bisexual, and there’s some actual A/L in it—which you’d think would be enough to sell me--but I’ve developed an aversion in it. I think I’d had a surfeit of the whole neo-pagan, feminist revision thing.